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	<title>Comments on: ADF BC Tuning IX: Application Modules, Part 3</title>
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		<title>By: Avrom</title>
		<link>http://www.avromroyfaderman.com/2009/09/adf-bc-tuning-ix-application-modules-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-9714</link>
		<dc:creator>Avrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s right. There&#039;s of course one other case you&#039;ll get an activation here: If the process holding the AM instance goes down, and the instance needs to be reconstructed in another process.

This makes a good point in general: Don&#039;t assume that because something has a cool-sounding name (e.g., &quot;High Availability&quot;) that you always want it. Failing over is great if you can actually get your servers back up quickly and if the application module instance is managing a critical transaction (such as the finalization of a purchase), but it&#039;s a cost you should always consider for non-critical transactions, and it&#039;s an entirely pointless cost if you&#039;re servers won&#039;t be back up before the user gives up and closes their browser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right. There&#8217;s of course one other case you&#8217;ll get an activation here: If the process holding the AM instance goes down, and the instance needs to be reconstructed in another process.</p>
<p>This makes a good point in general: Don&#8217;t assume that because something has a cool-sounding name (e.g., &#8220;High Availability&#8221;) that you always want it. Failing over is great if you can actually get your servers back up quickly and if the application module instance is managing a critical transaction (such as the finalization of a purchase), but it&#8217;s a cost you should always consider for non-critical transactions, and it&#8217;s an entirely pointless cost if you&#8217;re servers won&#8217;t be back up before the user gives up and closes their browser.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Haslam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Haslam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree - a very useful set of posts... I&#039;m looking forward to reading your book too!

Just one comment: if you&#039;re deploying your ADF app in a High Availability configuration (i.e. &quot;Failover Transaction State Upon Managed Release&quot; is ticked) the state is written back to the database (default) on every page request. Strictly this is not a full passivation though, i.e. you won&#039;t get a subsequent recycle/activation unless it would need to do that anyway for the number of concurrently active users.

Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree &#8211; a very useful set of posts&#8230; I&#8217;m looking forward to reading your book too!</p>
<p>Just one comment: if you&#8217;re deploying your ADF app in a High Availability configuration (i.e. &#8220;Failover Transaction State Upon Managed Release&#8221; is ticked) the state is written back to the database (default) on every page request. Strictly this is not a full passivation though, i.e. you won&#8217;t get a subsequent recycle/activation unless it would need to do that anyway for the number of concurrently active users.</p>
<p>Simon</p>
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		<title>By: Husain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Husain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avrom,

Can&#039;t thank you enough for organizing and sharing all the information related to Performance Tuning ADF applications. 
Great Work !!

Thanks,
Husain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avrom,</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t thank you enough for organizing and sharing all the information related to Performance Tuning ADF applications.<br />
Great Work !!</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Husain</p>
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